Tuesday, October 10, 2017

Euro Lit 10/15 notes on Plato’s “Symposium” •Immortality through fame •This section goes hand-in-hand with understanding future Plato •Back page, right hand column, line 49, “If mortal man may,” thus we cannot find absolutes, because we are not absolute •Immortality has to do with ideas, and our idea of what beauty is, because that, too, is immortal •What is beauty? How do we know? How do we know anything? •We learn it inductively, but only because we know it deductively beforehand •”Renewed by recollection” through aposterori thinking •All people desire to be remembered because they wish to be remembered and, thus, immortal, because people are afraid of the unknown, and death, and want to escape death through remaining remembered •All people also desire wisdom and virtue. Why? •Because you should do the right thing •Any attempt at utopia will result in dystopia. Why? •You have to give up one virtue to have a greater virtue •Also because “Utopia” means “Does not exist” •Temperance (moderation) and justice and the ordering of states and families are the most important virtues •Leadership affects a lot of people, and is thus influential and can be inspiring •Or, perhaps, we are selfish and want to lead just for fame •Justice and temperance are limiting •Two examples of “Children of the soul” are Homer and Lysergius (a great statesman) •Homer’s “Children of the soul” are The Iliad and The Oddesy •One may create jut for vanity, but may also to inspire people, or to become famous •We can attempt to attain the immortal by trying to do something as close to perfectly as possible •Can one fall in love at first sight, according to Plato and platonic love? •Yes, because you can fall in love with their soul, and see them with your mind’s eye, and recognize them as another soul •What are the six steps to recognizing absolute beauty? (It is INDUCTIVE) 1. We find one form we find beautiful 2. We see that beauty in other things than physical forms 3. We see beauty in everything 4. We see that the beauty of ideas is greater than the beauty of physical forms 5. We see beauty in death and the unknown 6. We recognize that there is beauty in all things •We can’t know absolute beauty, we can only have an approximation of it

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